tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post7843977039690499464..comments2023-05-18T08:46:59.064-06:00Comments on from the desk of Denver Snuffer: 2 Nephi 28: 1-2Denver Snufferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13850530477432070456noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-27305308491804380402010-07-25T21:47:44.960-06:002010-07-25T21:47:44.960-06:00I've heard many times lately that the influx o...I've heard many times lately that the influx of illegal immigrants are considered the remnant and we need to accept them as it's part of the plan. They've been called the "lion" as in Mormon 5:24.<br /><br />Any thoughts from Denver or others?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-71842494435088734062010-07-25T18:59:21.628-06:002010-07-25T18:59:21.628-06:00I think that a careful reading of D&C 3: 16-20...I think that a careful reading of D&C 3: 16-20 will reveal that at least some Nephites, Jacobites, Josephites, and Zoramites still remain intact in separate bodies where they have never lost the Gospel, for they receive the knowledge of a Savior through the testimony of their fathers, whereas the Lamanites, Lemuelites, and Ishmaelites receive a testimony of a Savior through the Book of Mormon.<br /><br />The Lord has always led away the righteous before He destroys a people.<br /><br />D&C 86: 8-11<br /><br />8 Therefore, thus saith the Lord unto you, with whom the priesthood hath continued through the lineage of your fathers—<br /> 9 For ye are lawful heirs, according to the flesh, and have been hid from the world with Christ in God—<br /> 10 Therefore your life and the priesthood have remained, and must needs remain through you and your lineage until the restoration of all things spoken by the mouths of all the holy prophets since the world began.<br /> 11 Therefore, blessed are ye if ye continue in my goodness, a light unto the Gentiles, and through this priesthood, a savior unto my people Israel. The Lord hath said it. Amen.Kisihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03328897217815744611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-51783120191726699532010-07-25T16:17:30.272-06:002010-07-25T16:17:30.272-06:00The spirit of these things is affecting more than ...The spirit of these things is affecting more than just Denver...see this article detailing remarks from Elder Marlin K. Jensen about Pioneer Day and the forgotten history of our mountain land Native Americans: <a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700050527/Remembering-American-Indian-population-of-1847-is-important-Elder-Marlin-K-Jensen-says.html" rel="nofollow">Article Here</a>Brian Zang (The Zang Family)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08307604832271130264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-89561782529921950872010-07-25T11:08:56.692-06:002010-07-25T11:08:56.692-06:00D&C 3 was given before the parts after the 116...D&C 3 was given <b>before</b> the parts <b>after</b> the 116 lost pages were translated. Therefore, the way the Lord referred to each tribe individually could be a clue as to what was contained in the 116 pages. The Lord would've spoken to Joseph and Martin with language they would've been familiar with after translating <i>only</i> 116 pages, not with what we are familiar with today with the whole Book of Mormon.<br /><br />Therefore, D&C 3 becomes a treasure trove for minute insights into that lost part of the record (you can see why parts of it might be important, and why the majority of it might be not as important as what we got instead)<br /><br />What we got instead was the small plates of Nephi. When Nephi wrote this, the tribes had already become unified with Nephi as king, and with Laman as Lamanites (a designation at least that the Nephites summarize their enemy tribes as one name).<br /><br />Could Joseph had read about customs and practices in the more secular record of the Book of Lehi of all the varying tribes of Lehi's descendants that would help him identify these aspects of each individual part of the remnant in his day? Is it significant that Oliver Cowdery never read the first 116 pages, although he was one of the first missionaries to the Lamanites? Was there information that would've helped Oliver succeed better? Could it be that Oliver never really was intended to be the one to reach the remnant anyway, and the Lord withheld the very tools he would've needed, and instead allowed him to fulfill a different mission in Ohio by finding Sidney Rigdon and his camp?<br /><br />Truly, the Lord is in control of this process. Notice how Joseph would've had to have withheld what he knew somewhat from Oliver. Could this have been his redemption after caving in the Martin Harris? Could Martin Harris be so discredited that Oliver would've shied away from listening to Martin about the 116 pages? ... Interesting stuff we never hear about, which probably wasn't even recorded, but becomes evident through what we do have recorded...Brian Zang (The Zang Family)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08307604832271130264noreply@blogger.com