tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post954087246444977117..comments2023-05-18T08:46:59.064-06:00Comments on from the desk of Denver Snuffer: Trivial PursuitDenver Snufferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13850530477432070456noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-8267159972243424462010-08-12T13:10:08.350-06:002010-08-12T13:10:08.350-06:00I agree with Steve, when an Apostle or Prophet fro...I agree with Steve, when an Apostle or Prophet from the past has seen the Lord, they tend to say so. Even if it's in vague, simple, words. <br /><br />At least that is my experience in reading and studying their words. <br /><br />I wonder if the correlation comittee nowdays would correlate such words and phrases out. Or maybe they already do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-65737246067760999032010-08-11T17:02:24.975-06:002010-08-11T17:02:24.975-06:00Anything is possible. To me it just doesn't m...Anything is possible. To me it just doesn't match the pattern of apostles and prophets past.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13745901786962474174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-16204361044248708742010-08-11T16:14:18.830-06:002010-08-11T16:14:18.830-06:00Steve, is it possible those special witnesses of C...Steve, is it possible those special witnesses of Christ have been commanded to bear testimony of Him while not revealing some personal sacred details? In Denver's case, as I understand his writings, he has said he was commanded to reveal that the Savior had ministered to him... for a purpose.... while at the same time not revealing sacred details?<br /><br />The Spirit will reveal the truth.<br /><br />That's how I see it.<br /><br />btw, I do not worship the arm of flesh .... It is our Father, and His son Christ in whom I put my trust. I still see the 12 and the first presidency as 15 clear stone/lights.... similar to the 16 (15+1) small stones touched by the finger of the Lord to light the Jaradite barges as they crossed the great seas. It could be another of my odd notions, however, I also see parallels between these 15 lights (12+3) and the "fifteen other fixed planets or stars" mentioned in facsimile 2 figure 5 (as always the spirit must be our guide--btw, are there constellations with 15 stars?): <br /><br />Fig. 5. Is called in Egyptian Enish-go-on-dosh; this is one of the governing planets also, and is said by the Egyptians to be the Sun, and to borrow its light from Kolob through the medium of Kae-e-vanrash, which is the grand Key, or, in other words, the governing power, which governs <b>fifteen other fixed planets or stars,</b> as also Floeese or the Moon, the Earth and the Sun in their annual revolutions. This planet receives its power through the medium of Kli-flos-is-es, or Hah-ko-kau-beam, the stars represented by numbers 22 and 23, receiving light from the revolutions of Kolob.Donald Dannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13097095599475727149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-33442223912691682602010-08-10T13:10:32.982-06:002010-08-10T13:10:32.982-06:00"I have seen the Lord and He has ministered t..."I have seen the Lord and He has ministered to me."<br /><br />That sounds like something which would come from the lips of a special witness of the Lord Jesus Christ - one of the twelve. Of course, anyone who has had such an audience qualifies for the title of special witness, I presume.<br /><br />It saddens me that I have never heard one of the 12 so testify. Of course, I may have simply missed it.<br /><br />I am glad that there are those who do so testify.<br /><br /><br />SteveStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13745901786962474174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-77818601211741756342010-08-09T11:35:37.721-06:002010-08-09T11:35:37.721-06:00Now there is a difference in ministering and admin...Now there is a difference in ministering and administering? What about the latter? Or can you share that? If my own church prevents me from living and conforming to all the truths and ways of the gospel... which blessings can only flow by obeying the laws/rights/priveledges... what then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-34656336264017705092010-08-08T09:27:06.608-06:002010-08-08T09:27:06.608-06:00Denver Who?Denver Who?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-13148728644555222062010-08-08T07:55:41.965-06:002010-08-08T07:55:41.965-06:00Thanks Taylor!Thanks Taylor!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-77898612671923191832010-08-08T00:11:38.940-06:002010-08-08T00:11:38.940-06:00Anon
Page 304. Last paragraph of chapter on Keep...Anon<br /><br />Page 304. Last paragraph of chapter on Keeping the Commandments (Reprised). That paragraph and the next chapter may address what you're looking for. <br /><br />Although I have to say I've often happened across very helpful parts of the book when I had originally opened it to remember something else. The side tracks are often enjoyable.Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18157207426274845984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-65964185970275392012010-08-07T23:23:16.120-06:002010-08-07T23:23:16.120-06:00Can someone tell me where in his book, Denver talk...Can someone tell me where in his book, Denver talks about the "Pharisee Phase?" I'm afraid I'm stuck in that rut and I'm sure Denver gives suggestions on how to move out of that phase in his book. I just don't know where to find it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-92217057849982132792010-08-06T21:11:10.916-06:002010-08-06T21:11:10.916-06:00Denver,
Thank you for answering my long detailed ...Denver,<br /><br />Thank you for answering my long detailed personal question. I just got back from being out of town and was surprised, but so grateful to see you took a whole blog entry to try and help me and others like me to better understand our own individual quest to know the Lord. You addressed so many issues that were very valuable for me. I knew you would take the focus off of YOU and onto the Lord...being one so eager to learn the right path and be found walking on it...I needed the answers you gave to help me do that appropriately.<br /><br />When I read The Second Comforter 4 years ago, to this exact month, I KNEW then through the Holy Ghost that you were telling the truth. Every fruit that has entered into my life as a consequence of that book has been sweet and delicious and drawn me nearer to the Lord.<br />I had the same experience with Come, Let Us Adore Him.<br /> <br />I'm actually relieved to know one can have a sense of humor like you and still be okay in the eyes of the Lord. That gives my husband and I a little breathing room! Whew! By the way, I had to chuckle at your use of the R-rated movie example.Being one who RARELY watches ANY movies..I admit that I too eventually saw the value in Braveheart, Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List. It took me years after they were released before I could get passed the "rule" and my perception of complete obedience...to actually be able to see the spirit of the principle being taught by the R-rated rule. I would rather see a movie like those with a moral, historical and uplifting message...rather than see the PG-13's and PG's that charade as entertainment, yet are justified by some as they technically still "fit the rule"...I just used my clearplay machine as my excuse! Ha, Ha. (I even own two of them now).<br /><br />Thank you again for obeying the Lord and LOSING THE ARGUMENT. We are ALL being blessed as a consequence and have been given an internal awakening to rise up and seek after the Lord.<br /><br />(I'll sign this anonymous, even though I gave my name in the other)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-12590061486912367602010-08-06T19:41:14.572-06:002010-08-06T19:41:14.572-06:00Your own spirit should be connected to and enlight...Your own spirit should be connected to and enlightened by the Light of Christ, given to all men/women. That is your conscience. It is an important first line of deciding right and wrong. You ignore it and you risk searing your conscience. So following your own internal compass is something I would advise.<br /><br />Those movies would be extremely violent. So was Mormon's life. Between the carnage and cannibalism, rape and murder, unrelenting genocide and end of his culture, his life was filled with horror. Yet he was the one who abridged the Book of Mormon and provided us with this great religious masterpiece. Somehow the violence, rape and murder did not prevent him from being the Lord's primary prophet to preserve His primary scripture for our time.<br /><br />Words convey meaning. Sometimes the best tool in the lexicon to convey a meaning requires one word, sometimes another. The best translation of some of John the Baptist's remarks would be of questionable civility; nevertheless altogether appropriate.Denver Snufferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13850530477432070456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-31526594495175048992010-08-06T18:40:20.872-06:002010-08-06T18:40:20.872-06:00Since when are we supposed to let our spirits be o...Since when are we supposed to let our spirits be our guide? I thought we were suppose to take THE Holy Spirit as our guide. I don't feel comfortable saying, 'you avoid whatever offends your spirit and I'll avoid whatever offends my spirit and we'll all be happy in our relative worlds.' Can't we just call good good and evil evil? My understanding was that if I obey the commandments, THE Spirit will abide in me. And if that same spirit abides in you, than whatever is sinful will be offensive to both you and I. And I know that it's impossible for us all to be on the same page at the same time (that's why we need to be patient with each other and withhold judgment), but aren't we all supposed to 'shake at the appearance of evil'? I chose not to see Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan, not because they were rated R, but because it was obvious that those movies would be extremely violent. It sounded like they were otherwise excellent films, but I detest those particular tools that Satan commonly uses to trap people: poisoning by degrees and using something beautiful to deliver a small but potent dose of sin that would harm any spirit. What am I missing here? Isn't 'badass' a bad word? I mean I won't judge you for saying it, but shouldn't we ought NOT to say it? Am I being a Pharisee here? I'm confused.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14365581300109547104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-57277264146289032952010-08-06T14:15:14.875-06:002010-08-06T14:15:14.875-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Angelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17416523702556145196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-10132837430406458532010-08-06T09:30:21.918-06:002010-08-06T09:30:21.918-06:00Powerful.
Your writing is a daily reminder of w...Powerful. <br /><br />Your writing is a daily reminder of who we should turn to. I'm grateful for your willingness.Kelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12493233144969291609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-88711449858688370272010-08-06T08:13:32.383-06:002010-08-06T08:13:32.383-06:00Denver:
Your ministry is having its effects. In m...Denver:<br /><br />Your ministry is having its effects. In my own life it has caused me to see more clearly the "false, vain and foolish" traditions which have blinded me (us). It has clarified much doctrine. It has allowed greater faith to develop in the promises of the Lord. And finally, it has helped me to feel more acutely, the jeopardy which I am in. <br /><br />It has not given me the ability to see angels, perform miracles, or enjoy the gifts of the spirit in abundance. I lament that I cannot seem to get any traction on the path, only inching forward. I'd like to break out in a full run. What to do? When others have asked similar questions, your answer has been to point out Joseph's directive to 'sacrifice all things'. How could one sacrifice all things? What would that look like?<br /><br />McKay <br /><br />PS: Thank you for the efforts of your ministry to us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-75937215046526772262010-08-05T22:15:27.379-06:002010-08-05T22:15:27.379-06:00Thank you, Brother Snuffer, for answering in clear...Thank you, Brother Snuffer, for answering in clear terms the question I have wondered about since I read the first few pages of your first book. If this had not occurred; then the book would have made no sense. I guess I missed the one book that would have answered my question earlier.AnonymousNVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-42114154291226174432010-08-05T18:59:28.611-06:002010-08-05T18:59:28.611-06:00Well, I believe you. Without the books you have b...Well, I believe you. Without the books you have been required to write I might have never considered or understood some things. I never would have known about the book "The Words of Joseph Smith." The stories of your failings and weakness spur me on to keep going despite my own. All I see is good in all that you have done in your books and your teachings on this blog. I am grateful that you have presented all of this in a way that does not make me want to "follow" YOU, but Christ. It is all good...it is all good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-77883492704234444032010-08-05T16:56:36.159-06:002010-08-05T16:56:36.159-06:00Bless you, broheme. I, too, am related to Robert ...Bless you, broheme. I, too, am related to Robert the Bruce and Braveheart is my second favorite movie, right after Babe. (Yes, the pig movie.) <br /><br />I've sometimes wondered why LDSs "need" to have perfect leaders. Some people really freak out if someone is suddenly not perfect anymore. I don't mean big heinous stuff like sex with kids - but like the rated R movie or the Applebee's Carside To Go on Sunday. I just never got hung up on that stuff.<br /><br />I guess we all have our distinct personalities, weaknesses and strengths.<br /><br />-HastyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com