tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post5028497691655861794..comments2023-05-18T08:46:59.064-06:00Comments on from the desk of Denver Snuffer: 2 Nephi 29: 13Denver Snufferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13850530477432070456noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-28437962254234580712010-08-13T22:26:54.756-06:002010-08-13T22:26:54.756-06:00I have McKay (that posts comments occassionally) t...I have McKay (that posts comments occassionally) to thank for giving me my first exposure to Denver's "The Second Comforter" four years ago, and then telling me about this blog a few months ago, too. <br /><br />Personally, I consider access to all of this information and the associated call to repentence to be one of the greatest "tender mercies" I have ever been extended by the Lord. Truly, I find myself in deep and ponderous thought throughout each and every day as a consequence. I am overjoyed at having the Book of Mormon come alive for me again. I had reached a point I wasn't sure HOW to understand more from my study.<br /><br />I remember when in one of Denver's first books that he mentioned that he did a scripture study that focused on just one verse at each sitting...and he did this for years...I was completely baffled at how that was possible and wished I had been among Denver's inner circle of friends so that I could have attended and learned. Lucky me...NOW I am finally BEGINNING to understand HOW that type of study and disection of scripture is possible...and I didn't even have to be in Denver's inner circle, either! :) I just wish there were the hours available in each day to devote what my heart is wanting to devote to study. Keep it coming, Denver. Thanks.Karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-57544510730160859422010-08-13T19:09:11.808-06:002010-08-13T19:09:11.808-06:00No pain, no gain. No irked readers, no spiritual ...No pain, no gain. No irked readers, no spiritual growth. Many of us don't like our applecarts overturned. Too bad. We need to be unsettled. Maybe we will then repent.<br /><br />Thanks, Denver. Please continue.<br /><br /><br />SteveStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13745901786962474174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-14512684095088577522010-08-13T17:51:51.732-06:002010-08-13T17:51:51.732-06:00Denver said: I don't see it happening, do you?...Denver said: <i>I don't see it happening, do you? I'm sort of persuaded by Nephi's pessimism of the gentiles of our day. Even this mild blog discussion I am attempting has provoked ire in many readers. How we fix our collective disinterest seems a monumental enterprise beyond human ability.</i><br /><br />I think I remember you posting that you believe in the importance, centrality and power of the individual, and that more can be done to change the course of history by the actions of the individuals than anything else. <br /><br />Is not your blog an "experiment" to see if you can touch us individually, and encourage that change of heart? Have you not witnessed individuals testifying that their hearts have been broken and their spirits are becoming contrite, as they seek an audience with the Savior? If not, is the worth of one soul great? Is the value of my soul worth the efforts you made these months, even if you are bombarded by the wrath of irked readers? If I told you that as an individual, I was striving in earnest to remove our (my) condemnation, and that your labors are bearing fruit, would that help remove your pessimism?<br /><br />From one individual to another, please don't shut your mouth.<br /><br />---DougInspirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915227658956979023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-66737980867657428272010-08-13T17:20:32.307-06:002010-08-13T17:20:32.307-06:00As much as I hate to see/experience a great calami...As much as I hate to see/experience a great calamity...(and I will undoubtably regret saying this when it hits and having to endure through it). If it will help move us out of this quagmire..then let the vile get poured. <br /><br />Quick analogy:<br />My daughter fell on loose gravel the other day, causing a deep wound that needed to be cleaned out. My wife and I didn't think it was sever enough to go to the hospital, but instead thougth we could nurse it ourselves. Although difficult, we calmed her through the painful process of extracting the small gravel/dirt and cleaning out the wound. Despite the screaming and crying from my daughter (which caused my wife and I sorrow), the cleansing needed to happen for the wounded arm to heal and return back whole. <br /><br />We all have fallen, individually, and collectively.. as a country, and as an institution... we can pretend that we are not hurt, we can dismiss the fact that we need to be cleansed.. but the reality is, our disbelief, our wickedness, and idolatry to vain things.. will only continue to fester. <br />As much as I don't want the crap to hit the fan.. I would like to move on to the healing.. Tired of just putting bandaids on a growing infection. <br /><br />Continue on Denver... I am realizing that I have never really read the Book of Mormon like I should of.David Christensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00923575099205650200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-50364590633343715952010-08-13T17:13:04.032-06:002010-08-13T17:13:04.032-06:00It's just fine that this blog makes some of us...It's just fine that this blog makes some of us upset at times - that's what gets us thinking. What's really dangerous is disinterest or apathy. I remember years ago my dad telling me that the hardest thing on his mission was the people who just "didn't care." If someone doesn't care there is no discussion, no rumination...what do you do with that? People on this blog have mentioned that their spouses have been bothered but are now considering and will most likely eventually embrace. What's the saying, "first we abhor, then we endure and lastly we embrace." ...sorry, couldn't resist, but you get the pic.lcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-84310139361773981172010-08-13T17:06:41.668-06:002010-08-13T17:06:41.668-06:00Having had a focus on the Gentiles for so long her...Having had a focus on the Gentiles for so long here, I noticed that in this scripture, the Gentiles are missing. We have the Jews, Nephites and Lost Tribes all sharing the words of Christ but no mention of the Gentiles. Hum.....<br /><br />BruceBruce & Barbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00182185558475476682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-53960277600479082242010-08-13T16:42:29.528-06:002010-08-13T16:42:29.528-06:00oh dear... so it seems.
Other scriptures come to ...oh dear... so it seems.<br /><br />Other scriptures come to mind:<br /><br />Hel. 11: 4<br /><br /> O Lord, do not suffer that this people shall be destroyed by the sword; but O Lord, rather let there be a famine in the land, to <b> stir them up in remembrance of the Lord their God, and perhaps they will repent and turn unto thee</b><br /><br />Heleman 4:34<br /><br /> Now this great evil, which came unto <b>the people</b> <i>because of their iniquity,</i><b> did stir them up again in remembrance of the Lord their God.</b><br /><br /><br />Alma 4: 19<br /><br /> And this he did that he himself might go forth <b>among his people</b>, or among the people of Nephi, that he might preach the word of God unto them, to <b>stir them up in remembrance</b> of their duty, and that he might pull down, by the word of God, all the pride and craftiness and all the contentions <b>which were among his people,</b> seeing no way that he might reclaim them save it were in bearing down in pure ftestimony against them.<br /><br />Alma 25: 6<br /> For many of them, after having suffered much loss and so many afflictions,<b> began to be stirred up in remembrance</b> of the words which Aaron and his brethren had preached to them in their land;<br /> therefore they began to disbelieve the traditions of their fathers, and <b>to believe in the Lord,</b> and that he gave great power unto the Nephites; and thus there were many of them converted in the wilderness.Donald Dannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13097095599475727149noreply@blogger.com