tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post37059055969872063..comments2023-05-18T08:46:59.064-06:00Comments on from the desk of Denver Snuffer: Alma 13:4Denver Snufferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13850530477432070456noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-48889965761958280232010-06-10T17:07:51.066-06:002010-06-10T17:07:51.066-06:00Patience. We'll get somewhere before we finis...Patience. We'll get somewhere before we finish this.<br /><br />:)Denver Snufferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13850530477432070456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-89642195654372331822010-06-10T08:43:04.193-06:002010-06-10T08:43:04.193-06:00That is huge! What in the heck does it mean?That is huge! What in the heck does it mean?Kisihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03328897217815744611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-30005736413856077562010-06-09T21:40:32.586-06:002010-06-09T21:40:32.586-06:00This has gotten very interesting. I'm reading ...This has gotten very interesting. I'm reading in the "Words of joseph Smith," from August 27, 1843. it states, "The mystery power and glory of the priesthood is so great and glorious that the angels desired to understand it and cannot: why, because of the tradition of them and their fathers in setting up stakes and not coming up to the mark in their probationary state."dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-58602064868078289132010-06-09T11:36:05.992-06:002010-06-09T11:36:05.992-06:00Doug, Your idea is a real possibility. A possibil...Doug, Your idea is a real possibility. A possibility that I have considered is this:<br />1) Those who followed Christ and came to earth<br />2) Those who followed Lucifer<br />3) Those who followed Christ but chose to remain in the pre-mortal world rather than take the risks associated with coming to earth. Joseph Smith said that these people are the cherubim and seraphim. I wish I could find the reference on this. Sorry.Kisihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03328897217815744611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-55999490423363748592010-06-09T09:50:24.024-06:002010-06-09T09:50:24.024-06:00Annonymous- perhaps what you're wondering the ...Annonymous- perhaps what you're wondering the same thing I am: Does that make me an Abraham or a Pharaoh, or something else? If it's already been determined in the preexistence, then wouldn't I know by now if I was one of those "called?" Or is that something I need to choose now (to become "chosen")?<br /><br />Kisi- I have thought the exact same thing about the "third part." Perhaps it consisted of 1. Those who followed Lucifer 2. The foreordained priests spoken of here and 3. Everyone else (those whose hearts were hardened and minds were blind).<br /><br />---DougInspirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915227658956979023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-89259159793124886902010-06-09T09:26:06.639-06:002010-06-09T09:26:06.639-06:00Anonymous -- I hope so, or we're all dead in t...Anonymous -- I hope so, or we're all dead in the water.Kisihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03328897217815744611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-62121271295779086592010-06-09T09:02:12.041-06:002010-06-09T09:02:12.041-06:00Many are called, but few are chosen....does that m...Many are called, but few are chosen....does that mean that there were many called in the premortal world, but when they got here their character flaws have prevented them from becoming "chosen"? If they recognize their error and repent, then can they then become chosen?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-78807831782891451322010-06-09T08:30:21.900-06:002010-06-09T08:30:21.900-06:00Here's my opinion on your questions: Lucifer ...Here's my opinion on your questions: Lucifer definitely has power, and the power he has to bruise our heels is great -- but not as great as our power to crush his head. He has always shown forth signs and wonders. Pharaoh's priests had their staffs turning into snakes also, but Moses's snake ate up their snakes. We also know that Satan can appear as an angel of light, so he can appear to have light and glory. Can he use his power to deceive? That's what he's doing 24/7, and he's very good at it, and so are those who follow him. Those who follow(ed) him were the first that he was successful at deceiving -- a third part of the hosts of heaven, which I personally don't believe means 1/3. There's a big difference between a third part and 1/3. A third part could be 3/4 of the hosts of heaven or 1/100. We've never been told. We just know from this that there are two other parts. Those who followed Christ and came to earth and yet another part. Joseph Smith commented on this.Kisihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03328897217815744611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-38434233064591345322010-06-09T07:44:48.260-06:002010-06-09T07:44:48.260-06:00Does Lucifer have power? if so, can he use that po...Does Lucifer have power? if so, can he use that power to deceive? Can he give his power to others?<br /><br />Can Lucifer (or his agents) provide "signs" or demonstrations so people may know he/they come with power? <br /><br />Does light and glory accompany real heavenly priesthood power? <br /><br />Must there be a physical contact (eg laying on of hands) to authorize/transmit heavenly priesthood power to worthy individuals? "The manner" after which they were ordained into the holy order of the priesthood in verse 3 is not yet clear to me.Donald Dannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13097095599475727149noreply@blogger.com