tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post2102724894177852124..comments2023-05-18T08:46:59.064-06:00Comments on from the desk of Denver Snuffer: Alma 13:19-20Denver Snufferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13850530477432070456noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-86921177521907428692010-06-17T19:02:06.335-06:002010-06-17T19:02:06.335-06:00Denver,
Thank you for your comments.
Here is wh...Denver,<br /><br />Thank you for your comments. <br /><br />Here is why I have been interested in Translation. I understand that the 144000 that get o go out and reap for the last time will be translated to endure the struggles out in the world. <br /><br />They would need it for their mission. I was given a blessing a few years ago about serving a mission with my wife, and that of course would be a great mission. The reason I would want that is to be able to go and bring others to Christ. I know how the buffetings of Satan feel, and I would not want anyone to endure that if they still wanted to believe in Christ. <br /><br />The words and feelings of Alma and the Sons of Mosiah are my words and feelings. After having sinned nigh unto to eternal Death (not what some would think, but spiritual) I have such a desire to give others hope and to point others to the Answer, to Christ. <br /><br />I am still coming unto to Him, but I know that part of the process is to serve others.<br /><br />I know it sounds "Weird", but after serving my Mission, I really would love to be a part of the last mission, and to be able to physically do what I need to be there for Christ and others. <br /><br />Thanks for letting me explain my weirdness. <br /><br />Keep up the good work.Brian Bowlerhttp://utahbowler@hotmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-28866296868675038822010-06-17T15:29:17.145-06:002010-06-17T15:29:17.145-06:00Thanks for those comments on translation, Denver!Thanks for those comments on translation, Denver!Brian Zang (The Zang Family)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08307604832271130264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-3290655527538040092010-06-16T23:24:12.147-06:002010-06-16T23:24:12.147-06:00Joseph Smith said that "Translated bodies are...Joseph Smith said that "Translated bodies are designed for future missions." DHC 4: 425.<br /><br />To conflate translation to another circumstance (i.e., Second Coming) is to mistake the notion that translation is an often available transition. It is confined to those who need a body to minister, deliver keys, function in some call, provide some necessary service assigned to the minister. It is not merely some portion of normal progression of a mortal which would be available to all without regard to the Fall, which brings the promise that "ye shall surely die" as a consequence of this current state.<br /><br />Translation is not done without a calling requiring it. It seems undesirable to me; based upon the totality of the plan of salvation.Denver Snufferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13850530477432070456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-26403128035711762682010-06-16T23:13:21.734-06:002010-06-16T23:13:21.734-06:00Denver,
You said that Translation only comes with ...Denver,<br />You said that Translation only comes with a calling, which is my understanding until I read some of James Custer material. I may be misspeaking, but Consider this, James Custer states that after the Baptism of fire comes translation. TO make it through the Tribulations that are coming (and bring ones own family through)he states translation will be necessary. Though he also states some will make it through without translation, but will suffer much, then join ZION. It sounded right when I read it, At least that a High Priest of the Holy Order of the Son would receive this to fulfill the calling of bringing his family through. <br />I think I may have answered some of my own questions writing this, as I feel that any translation would have a mission as you stated associated with it. <br />Thanks again for sharing,and if I am off please let me know. I am so hungry for Christ and his Light. I feel that without Him I will perish in this harsh wilderness. I know I must go on or I will sink.Brian Bowlerhttp://utahbowler@hotmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-48373433714348778632010-06-16T23:01:06.843-06:002010-06-16T23:01:06.843-06:00This post was just what I needed. I focus to much ...This post was just what I needed. I focus to much on myself. I think often of what I want to be. There is to much "I" going on. I need to think a lot less about what's in it for me and focus more on others, because I love them and the Lord.dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-12042459464432870402010-06-16T21:20:52.507-06:002010-06-16T21:20:52.507-06:00Thank you Denver.... I appreciate your insights an...Thank you Denver.... I appreciate your insights and help.<br /><br />-kind regardsDonald Dannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13097095599475727149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-70155817699296667292010-06-16T18:13:12.482-06:002010-06-16T18:13:12.482-06:00The covenant God made with Enoch dealt with preser...The covenant God made with Enoch dealt with preserving the righteous, rather than destroying them in the flood, marking the covenant with the sign of the rainbow in the sky, and a promise that truth would remain on the earth to preserve mankind thereafter; including a return in the last days.<br /><br />Enoch's City was translated because it is contrary to the order of heaven for God to slay the righteous. The wicked can slay them, but God cannot. Since Enoch had faith sufficient to hold at bay the armies of the wicked, and God could not slay them because it would be wrong for Him to do so, the solution was to give them an assignment which would allow them to be translated. Translation only happens when it involves a calling. Enoch's City was called to minister, and ultimately accompany the Lord at the time of His return. They were likely also the choir which announced His birth, just as they are the "angels" who will accompany the Lord at His return.<br /><br />Without a calling requiring it, men are not translated. If the Lord offers, and a man asks for it, the result will be an assignment which will require translation to be fulfilled. It is not a generally occurring event, commonly available. It is not available at all without an accompanying calling necessitating the translation.Denver Snufferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13850530477432070456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-37817324313830286982010-06-16T09:41:36.114-06:002010-06-16T09:41:36.114-06:00Denver,
As I have read your books (and several oth...Denver,<br />As I have read your books (and several others), prayed, fasted, went to the temple, and pondered upon the messages the Spirit is guiding me to, it seems like I am returning to a Home I have been missing from, and that I never really wanted to leave. I know I came because I wanted further LIght and Knowledge from this experience, and there were/are people I am here to serve. My family, my friends, and my family in Christ. Without doing my part their lives would be much hard if I falied in my mission. <br />Growing up I have never felt "right" in this world. We are strangers and Foreigners here, in a alien environment. I have never really enjoyed the Enmity that is just a part of life here. I did not like all of the Competition that is encouraged here. My coach in B-ball wanted me to be "meaner". I liked playing, but I really did not want to BEAT someone else. I just wanted to improve myself and make sure everyone was included and having fun. Its SO much nicer to let go of worrying about Whats In It for Me Mentality.<br />When I read this blog, and read your books and the Scriptures my Spirit sours. I love LIght, and I love remembering who I am and why we are all here. Its enjoyable to see my family growing up in the Light. They have such a different life than I did growing up. I had the church, but the Spirit has been more consistent for them. It has not always been easy, but its so worth it when I see them growing and responding to the Spirit. <br /><br />In summary, Thank you Denver AND all those on this site who are striving to know him. The more I see the Corn Popping around me, the better. Or to use another analogy, we are all rising on a wonderful tide of righteouness. <br /><br />Onward to Zion!Brian Bowlerhttp://utahbowler@hotmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880654315943365046.post-603884218759165772010-06-16T07:31:18.273-06:002010-06-16T07:31:18.273-06:00http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jst/4
JST Genesis 14...http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jst/4<br /><br />JST Genesis 14:<br /><br /> 27 And thus, having been approved of God, he was ordained an high priest after the order of the covenant which God made with Enoch,<br /><br />What is the "covenant which God made with Enoch?"<br /><br />.... those who are ordained after this order have power to be translated and stand in the presence of God?Donald Dannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13097095599475727149noreply@blogger.com